Session 10 - Don Carson
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/That-By-All-Means-I-Might-Win-Some-Faithfulness-and-Flexibility-in-Gospel-P
My convoluted notes
1 Corinthians 9:19-23
C1 - Traditional church, non indigenous language
C2 - Traditional church, indigenous language
C3 - Culturally adopting indigenous church
C4 - Contextualized, adopting many ingenious forms where not explicitly forbidden
C5 - Messianic indigenous religion
C6 - Small Christ centered underground community
Arguments for C5, are used in emerging churches as well as in the Muslim world to explain the watering down of the gospel story in order to present the ideas of Christianity without insisting on one way.
Should we seek to be flexible, in order to remain faithful to the text?
What are the limits?
Who are the weak, Paul became like to help them?
Those with a weak conscious, someone who thinks something is wrong even when it may not be, when their heart is guilty for that act.
You cannot jeopardize the exclusive sufficiency of salvation from Jesus.
In order to remain faithful, Paul has to flex because he doesn't fit the categories anymore. He becomes as the people he was trying to convert so that they could relate and be more familiar, without sacrificing the gospel, or the salvation.
To win Christians to have to flex, but then you have to bring them back to Christianity in the end, they must be brought back to Christ.
To be a leader, you must be a servant, while maintaining the authority based in Christ and the gospel, where our motivation for authority is to serve for Christ and the gospel for the sake of personal participation in the gospel.
Monday, April 27, 2009
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 9 - Ligon Duncan
Session 9 - Ligon Duncan
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Finishing-Well
My convoluted notes
2 Timothy 4:6-22
Pastorals were meant to be practical and vital instructions for ministry. Not simply suggestions.
- 1st error is theological liberalism.
- 2nd error is divorcing methodology from theology. (modern evangelicalism)
Traditionalists assume culture and impose assumptions
Progressives adopt culture and impose adoptions
We need creativity truly anchored and derived from theology.
What can we learn from the closing comments of a personal letter?
Gives direct application information, in the form of charges, and challenges to be carried out.
Exhortation
"I'm dying, you finish my work"
Request
"I'm lonely, cold, and unable to study without my books especially the parchments"
Even an apostle much read.
Warning
Watch out for others, forgive those who betray you, the Lord is with you.
Faithfulness does not guarantee human companionship.
Greeting
Wants to build up God's people with genuine love from brother to brother.
Benediction
The Lord is with you, Grace is with you,
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Finishing-Well
My convoluted notes
2 Timothy 4:6-22
Pastorals were meant to be practical and vital instructions for ministry. Not simply suggestions.
- 1st error is theological liberalism.
- 2nd error is divorcing methodology from theology. (modern evangelicalism)
Traditionalists assume culture and impose assumptions
Progressives adopt culture and impose adoptions
We need creativity truly anchored and derived from theology.
What can we learn from the closing comments of a personal letter?
Gives direct application information, in the form of charges, and challenges to be carried out.
Exhortation
"I'm dying, you finish my work"
Request
"I'm lonely, cold, and unable to study without my books especially the parchments"
Even an apostle much read.
Warning
Watch out for others, forgive those who betray you, the Lord is with you.
Faithfulness does not guarantee human companionship.
Greeting
Wants to build up God's people with genuine love from brother to brother.
Benediction
The Lord is with you, Grace is with you,
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 8 - Panel Discussion
Session 8 - Panel Discussion with Tim Keller, John Piper, Ligon Duncan and Crawford Loritts(chair: Stephen Um)
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/panel_discussion
I didn't take notes on this one, I tried, but there was no way I was going to get it all.
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/panel_discussion
I didn't take notes on this one, I tried, but there was no way I was going to get it all.
Sunday, April 26, 2009
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 7
Anonymous do to the nature of his missional work, contact me for more info
1. Culturally distant message of the cross.
- Sin and guilt are not common concepts in shame cultures, right and wrong are determined by the result the action has on the community. Do not believe in a personal or supreme God with accountability.
You cannot cop out, your main message has to be one of the Gospel, no exceptions, no apologies, no turning back. The message of the cross must be preached, even at the expense of your own self, at the possibility of being called a fool.
Paul was involved in a purely intellectual debate for the wisdom of the cross. Marketing sin and guilt to a shame orientation is useless. Paul preached the completeness of our God, and the shame of the cross. Proven method of communication in Hindu and Buddhist cultures.
All religions started with sacrifice which was abused, and purified by reformers.
Sacrifice is honored by humans, if God does not sacrifice himself, that makes us more honorable than God.
We must use whatever means we can to explain the message of the cross.
2. Upholding the uniqueness of Christ in a pluralistic society.
- Nationalism has no place for Christianity. Pluralism, and openness is seen as superior and less arrogant, than saying we have the only way.
Persecution is a means of conversion. Prosperity is never good for Christianity.
People who believe in Jesus should be servants to the people.
Suffering played a significant role in the rise of Christianity.
Strength for servitude comes from being the servant of God, Lord of lords.
Fundamentalism is an expression of weakness.
We respect culture, people, practice, because we know Christ is ultimately more than anything we can imagine.
You must be willing to submit to culture to open the door to the Gospel.
3. Maintaining Evangelism in a materialistic world.
- Keep evangelism a priority.
If we are good Christians we will make sure all social concerns are taken care of, our neighbors will be fed, we will take care of those less fortunate.
Evangelism is being described as new colonialism.
We must not forget, or exclude the reality of hell, retribution is an aspect of life that should be preached and believed. Preaching about Hell must not be done out of fear, but out of anguish and love for those who may be going there. We will have to stand in front of God.
1. Culturally distant message of the cross.
- Sin and guilt are not common concepts in shame cultures, right and wrong are determined by the result the action has on the community. Do not believe in a personal or supreme God with accountability.
You cannot cop out, your main message has to be one of the Gospel, no exceptions, no apologies, no turning back. The message of the cross must be preached, even at the expense of your own self, at the possibility of being called a fool.
Paul was involved in a purely intellectual debate for the wisdom of the cross. Marketing sin and guilt to a shame orientation is useless. Paul preached the completeness of our God, and the shame of the cross. Proven method of communication in Hindu and Buddhist cultures.
All religions started with sacrifice which was abused, and purified by reformers.
Sacrifice is honored by humans, if God does not sacrifice himself, that makes us more honorable than God.
We must use whatever means we can to explain the message of the cross.
2. Upholding the uniqueness of Christ in a pluralistic society.
- Nationalism has no place for Christianity. Pluralism, and openness is seen as superior and less arrogant, than saying we have the only way.
Persecution is a means of conversion. Prosperity is never good for Christianity.
People who believe in Jesus should be servants to the people.
Suffering played a significant role in the rise of Christianity.
Strength for servitude comes from being the servant of God, Lord of lords.
Fundamentalism is an expression of weakness.
We respect culture, people, practice, because we know Christ is ultimately more than anything we can imagine.
You must be willing to submit to culture to open the door to the Gospel.
3. Maintaining Evangelism in a materialistic world.
- Keep evangelism a priority.
If we are good Christians we will make sure all social concerns are taken care of, our neighbors will be fed, we will take care of those less fortunate.
Evangelism is being described as new colonialism.
We must not forget, or exclude the reality of hell, retribution is an aspect of life that should be preached and believed. Preaching about Hell must not be done out of fear, but out of anguish and love for those who may be going there. We will have to stand in front of God.
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Workshop 2 - C.J. Mahaney
Optional Session
Workshop 2 - C. J. Mahaney
Originally scheduled to be on Trinitarian Pastoral Ministry, he changed his topic to Pastoral Charge
No full message available sorry you are stuck with my convoluted notes
1 Peter 5:1-4
Pastor of a local church should be familiar with church, pastoral history, as if it were their own history.
Suffering informs pastoral ministry.
One must be a Shepard, it must be the primary metaphor, not the managerial one passed on recently.
Journey to Shepard,
Jacob identifies God as Shepard
David sings Lord is my Shepard
God calls David Shepard
God promises a Shepard in Jeremiah
Ezekiel indites people for neglecting the flock
God promises a Shepard
Shepard arrives and gives life for flock
Restores one who denied him, and commissions him with "feed my flock"
Peter exhorts us with reminder to play a part in the Shepard of God's people.
Most elevated task God could assign man.
Exercise oversight, sacrifice, serve, love, be amazed . . . exceeded only by experience of conversion.
Be humbled, filled with hope.
Motives and attitudes matter, and seriously affect the outcome of Shepard
Not under compulsion, but willingly,
- Weekly sermon writing
- Weekly preaching
- Lack of visible results
- Crisis of faith
Must create a culture of joy.
Not domineering, but as examples
- Exercise oversight v. Lording over flock, pastor is not stand-in for Lord
- Humility!!!
- Shepard must be aware of being a needy and loved sheep.
- Turn heart to coming of Christ, we should work back from that day to the present.
Workshop 2 - C. J. Mahaney
Originally scheduled to be on Trinitarian Pastoral Ministry, he changed his topic to Pastoral Charge
No full message available sorry you are stuck with my convoluted notes
1 Peter 5:1-4
Pastor of a local church should be familiar with church, pastoral history, as if it were their own history.
Suffering informs pastoral ministry.
One must be a Shepard, it must be the primary metaphor, not the managerial one passed on recently.
Journey to Shepard,
Jacob identifies God as Shepard
David sings Lord is my Shepard
God calls David Shepard
God promises a Shepard in Jeremiah
Ezekiel indites people for neglecting the flock
God promises a Shepard
Shepard arrives and gives life for flock
Restores one who denied him, and commissions him with "feed my flock"
Peter exhorts us with reminder to play a part in the Shepard of God's people.
Most elevated task God could assign man.
Exercise oversight, sacrifice, serve, love, be amazed . . . exceeded only by experience of conversion.
Be humbled, filled with hope.
Motives and attitudes matter, and seriously affect the outcome of Shepard
Not under compulsion, but willingly,
- Weekly sermon writing
- Weekly preaching
- Lack of visible results
- Crisis of faith
Must create a culture of joy.
Not domineering, but as examples
- Exercise oversight v. Lording over flock, pastor is not stand-in for Lord
- Humility!!!
- Shepard must be aware of being a needy and loved sheep.
- Turn heart to coming of Christ, we should work back from that day to the present.
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Workshop 1 - Joshua Harris
Optional Session
Workshop 1 - Joshua Harris
No full message available, sorry you are stuck with just my convoluted notes
Hebrews 10:19-25
Vital connection between Gospel and Church
We were never meant to be solitary Christians.
How do we help people to be committed to the local church?
Who are church hoppers
-We are consumer minded, looking for a better deal.
-Independence, they don't want the accountability.
-Critical, evaluating everything superficial, always comparing, never satisfied.
--They are still people who need help, and guidance, who Christ died for.
Find out why
Pastors are called to shepherding, not marketing.
If your motivation is seeker oriented, getting numbers, you will cater to their desires, and propagate the problem, encouraging the consumer mindset.
What truths do we need to teach?
1. Biblical theology, God's purpose.
2. Systematic theology of the Church.
3. Necessity of local church in spiritual growth. We need other people to show us our sins.
4. Necessity of local church in worship.
5. Necessity of church in mission. Evangelism works best in the context of community.
What are key teaching moments for church hoppers?
1. Are we reminding people of the importance of the church?
2. Are we clear on expectations of members?
3. Importance of attendance.
4. Preparing them to leave if it must happen.
5. What is my personal example teaching?
Workshop 1 - Joshua Harris
No full message available, sorry you are stuck with just my convoluted notes
Hebrews 10:19-25
Vital connection between Gospel and Church
We were never meant to be solitary Christians.
How do we help people to be committed to the local church?
Who are church hoppers
-We are consumer minded, looking for a better deal.
-Independence, they don't want the accountability.
-Critical, evaluating everything superficial, always comparing, never satisfied.
--They are still people who need help, and guidance, who Christ died for.
Find out why
Pastors are called to shepherding, not marketing.
If your motivation is seeker oriented, getting numbers, you will cater to their desires, and propagate the problem, encouraging the consumer mindset.
What truths do we need to teach?
1. Biblical theology, God's purpose.
2. Systematic theology of the Church.
3. Necessity of local church in spiritual growth. We need other people to show us our sins.
4. Necessity of local church in worship.
5. Necessity of church in mission. Evangelism works best in the context of community.
What are key teaching moments for church hoppers?
1. Are we reminding people of the importance of the church?
2. Are we clear on expectations of members?
3. Importance of attendance.
4. Preparing them to leave if it must happen.
5. What is my personal example teaching?
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 6 - Bryan Chapell
Session 6 - Bryan Chapell
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Preach-the-Word1
My convoluted notes:
2 Timothy 3:10-4:5
We forget the nature of the Gospel which is the cause of erosion.
Hearing the word, rests on the foundation of the belief in the inspired word. What scripture claims it to be. Scripture is how God talks to us, and the expectations of it's preaching is important.
Clear, Godliness, purity, enduring suffering.
The voice and hand of Jesus is present in the faithful reading and preaching of scripture.
Psalm 19:7-14
Our conviction of the infallibility comes from the Holy Spirit, by faith.
3000 times "Thus sayeth the Lord" in some form.
Liar, lunacy or Lord.
Picking and choosing what to believe in the bible makes you the word of God, makes you, the one who you rely on.
Provides truth, correction, direction
Not just the NT Paul, speaks of the OT, all he had.
False teachers will come and are here.
Knowing we would turn away and get distracted, or get something wrong, he gave us his word regardless.
We can endure all things as God's word is with us at all times through Scripture.
Preach the word and the water of life flows into all the church and the people.
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Preach-the-Word1
My convoluted notes:
2 Timothy 3:10-4:5
We forget the nature of the Gospel which is the cause of erosion.
Hearing the word, rests on the foundation of the belief in the inspired word. What scripture claims it to be. Scripture is how God talks to us, and the expectations of it's preaching is important.
Clear, Godliness, purity, enduring suffering.
The voice and hand of Jesus is present in the faithful reading and preaching of scripture.
Psalm 19:7-14
Our conviction of the infallibility comes from the Holy Spirit, by faith.
3000 times "Thus sayeth the Lord" in some form.
Liar, lunacy or Lord.
Picking and choosing what to believe in the bible makes you the word of God, makes you, the one who you rely on.
Provides truth, correction, direction
Not just the NT Paul, speaks of the OT, all he had.
False teachers will come and are here.
Knowing we would turn away and get distracted, or get something wrong, he gave us his word regardless.
We can endure all things as God's word is with us at all times through Scripture.
Preach the word and the water of life flows into all the church and the people.
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 5 - K. Edward Copeland
Session 5 - K. Edward Copeland
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Shadowlands-Pitfalls-and-Parodies-of-Gospel-Centered-Ministry
My convoluted notes:
2nd Timothy 3:1-9
Starts with a general statement, and then works toward a specifically perditious group, ending with statement of hope.
Gives commands to know something and to avoid some things.
In the last days, there will be difficult times.
Last days started at Christ's advent.
We don't have time for recreational preaching. We live in violent, fierce times, because of the people that populate the time we live in.
The root of all is our desire to be the center, gratifying the self above all.
The tragedy is that this permeates professed Christians. They are practical atheists. Don't emphasize the external at the expense of the internal.
The power is in the Gospel, not us, in his change, his ride. Power is not in performance, or passion, emotive is not dynamite.
Journalism and preaching has become commentary, opinion, not truth.
People will prey on the weak in faith, those who want to find the truth, but never apply it, thinking exposure is the same as experience. Those who have heard just enough Gospel to never receive it all. ***condemnation of Right wing?***
V. 9 Folly will be obvious to all, aside from those God helps. Ultimately evil will be exposed.
What the text taught us is that even though evil will be temporarily successful, it has to ultimately fail, as the folly will be exposed.
Application -
Act like you are on the winning side.
Preach the truth, allow the spirit to empower you.
Stop acting like God is not in control.
Preach for results, not response.
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Shadowlands-Pitfalls-and-Parodies-of-Gospel-Centered-Ministry
My convoluted notes:
2nd Timothy 3:1-9
Starts with a general statement, and then works toward a specifically perditious group, ending with statement of hope.
Gives commands to know something and to avoid some things.
In the last days, there will be difficult times.
Last days started at Christ's advent.
We don't have time for recreational preaching. We live in violent, fierce times, because of the people that populate the time we live in.
The root of all is our desire to be the center, gratifying the self above all.
The tragedy is that this permeates professed Christians. They are practical atheists. Don't emphasize the external at the expense of the internal.
The power is in the Gospel, not us, in his change, his ride. Power is not in performance, or passion, emotive is not dynamite.
Journalism and preaching has become commentary, opinion, not truth.
People will prey on the weak in faith, those who want to find the truth, but never apply it, thinking exposure is the same as experience. Those who have heard just enough Gospel to never receive it all. ***condemnation of Right wing?***
V. 9 Folly will be obvious to all, aside from those God helps. Ultimately evil will be exposed.
What the text taught us is that even though evil will be temporarily successful, it has to ultimately fail, as the folly will be exposed.
Application -
Act like you are on the winning side.
Preach the truth, allow the spirit to empower you.
Stop acting like God is not in control.
Preach for results, not response.
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 4 - Mark Driscoll
Session 4 - Mark Driscoll
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Rightly-Dividing-the-Word-of-Truth
I didn't take any convoluted notes, just listen to the message.
Here is a link to his own notes though:
http://theresurgence.com/gospel_coalition_2009_driscoll_outline
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Rightly-Dividing-the-Word-of-Truth
I didn't take any convoluted notes, just listen to the message.
Here is a link to his own notes though:
http://theresurgence.com/gospel_coalition_2009_driscoll_outline
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 3 - Phil Ryken
Session 3 - Phil Ryken
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/The-Pattern-of-Sound-Words
My convoluted notes:
2 Timothy 1:13-2:13
Call to faithful ministry, doctrinal and practical 1:14-15
Truth of faith must be a way of life.
Faithful ministry is a way of life, trusting in Jesus for absolutely everything.
Practical call, success in ministry has nothing to do with cultural goals, only in faithful living out of Gospel.
1:15-18 Paul's personal example. Cautionary tale to Timothy.
Only 10% minister till retirement.
Do I love the men in ministry or do I see them as rivals?
Primary commitment to Gospel.
Courage to spread Gospel required by faithfulness.
Grace is sufficient for all faithfulness, all dedication, all courage.
Burden for Paul is to spread benefit of experience.
One of the best ways to keep the faith is to pass on the faith.
Illustrative, -
Military:
sharing in suffering, total life commitment.
Limit yourself to what is needed to focus in ministry.
Athlete:
Adhering to rules, regulations that govern the entire scope of existence. Work hard in your calling.
Farmer:
Faithfulness in work, dedication, hard work, harvest best to be that of gospel sowing.
All hold promise of reward, ***reward still makes me think earning and merit, why does this bother me so much? claims not reward but gift, but breaks down with search and struggle for it. Works disclaimer doesn't quite cut it***
Command to remain faithful to Christ and his saving work!
Word of God is the only thing that works, the only thing that teaches, the only thing that the spirit has unchained for the sanctification of God's work.
By faith joined to Jesus in everything he did, condition is if we endure, not everyone is faithful, and remains in the calling.
If we are faithless, he will remain faithful, our failure does not mean God abandons us.
Cross is the sign of the absolute faithfulness of God.
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/The-Pattern-of-Sound-Words
My convoluted notes:
2 Timothy 1:13-2:13
Call to faithful ministry, doctrinal and practical 1:14-15
Truth of faith must be a way of life.
Faithful ministry is a way of life, trusting in Jesus for absolutely everything.
Practical call, success in ministry has nothing to do with cultural goals, only in faithful living out of Gospel.
1:15-18 Paul's personal example. Cautionary tale to Timothy.
Only 10% minister till retirement.
Do I love the men in ministry or do I see them as rivals?
Primary commitment to Gospel.
Courage to spread Gospel required by faithfulness.
Grace is sufficient for all faithfulness, all dedication, all courage.
Burden for Paul is to spread benefit of experience.
One of the best ways to keep the faith is to pass on the faith.
Illustrative, -
Military:
sharing in suffering, total life commitment.
Limit yourself to what is needed to focus in ministry.
Athlete:
Adhering to rules, regulations that govern the entire scope of existence. Work hard in your calling.
Farmer:
Faithfulness in work, dedication, hard work, harvest best to be that of gospel sowing.
All hold promise of reward, ***reward still makes me think earning and merit, why does this bother me so much? claims not reward but gift, but breaks down with search and struggle for it. Works disclaimer doesn't quite cut it***
Command to remain faithful to Christ and his saving work!
Word of God is the only thing that works, the only thing that teaches, the only thing that the spirit has unchained for the sanctification of God's work.
By faith joined to Jesus in everything he did, condition is if we endure, not everyone is faithful, and remains in the calling.
If we are faithless, he will remain faithful, our failure does not mean God abandons us.
Cross is the sign of the absolute faithfulness of God.
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 2 - John Piper
Session 2 - John Piper
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Feed-the-Flame-of-Gods-Gift-Unashamed-Courage-in-the-Gospel
My convoluted notes
2 Timothy 1-12
Main point -
"Timothy, keep feeding the white hot flame of God's gift in you, the unashamed courage to speak openly of Christ and suffer for the gospel."
1. Where - v. 6-8 Christ spits out luke warm, keep hot, keep fanning the flame. On going gift pertains to obedience. God creates, fans, and does, in you, all is God's work.
2. Here or all over the book -
14 restatements of this point.
3. How - 2:1 = 1:8 = 1:2
Grace comes through word, and truth, and is held by faith the continue with you.
4. Just do it -
A. Faith is authentic, love of father to son 1:3-5 "Timothy I believe with all my heart your faith is real even though it came from your grandmother and mother and not your dad."
B. 1:11-12 be prepared to suffer, don't be ashamed, the Gospel is powerful, it will be given by God.
C. 1:9-10 God saved and called for his own purpose and grace through Christ given before all began, power, over all, death and life. Power given before world, courage given before creation, favored for all time. Nothing we do, think, feel, matters, all to God's purpose. Sole reliance on God and God alone for everything!
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/Feed-the-Flame-of-Gods-Gift-Unashamed-Courage-in-the-Gospel
My convoluted notes
2 Timothy 1-12
Main point -
"Timothy, keep feeding the white hot flame of God's gift in you, the unashamed courage to speak openly of Christ and suffer for the gospel."
1. Where - v. 6-8 Christ spits out luke warm, keep hot, keep fanning the flame. On going gift pertains to obedience. God creates, fans, and does, in you, all is God's work.
2. Here or all over the book -
14 restatements of this point.
3. How - 2:1 = 1:8 = 1:2
Grace comes through word, and truth, and is held by faith the continue with you.
4. Just do it -
A. Faith is authentic, love of father to son 1:3-5 "Timothy I believe with all my heart your faith is real even though it came from your grandmother and mother and not your dad."
B. 1:11-12 be prepared to suffer, don't be ashamed, the Gospel is powerful, it will be given by God.
C. 1:9-10 God saved and called for his own purpose and grace through Christ given before all began, power, over all, death and life. Power given before world, courage given before creation, favored for all time. Nothing we do, think, feel, matters, all to God's purpose. Sole reliance on God and God alone for everything!
2009 National Gospel Coalition Conference Session 1 - Tim Keller
Session 1 - Tim Keller
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/The-Grand-Demythologizer-The-Gospel-and-Idolatry
My convoluted notes:
Acts 19:21-41
Paul challenged idols.
Discerning idols -
Agora - marketplace, public forum, center of all.
David Clarkson, 2nd volume - Soul Idolatry.
http://www.gracegems.org/SERMONS/Clarkson_soul_idolatry.htm
Exposing idols -
Threatening idols exposes weakness and creates anger and violence from worshipers
3 kinds of idols -
Personal
Religious
Cultural
P -
pseudo savior to keep control yourself
Money - Artemis, wall street, banks, etc.
Romance - Aphrodite, No boundaries etc.
Children - Stage moms, home schooling moms, etc.
R -
self righteous devotees
Truth - dogmatic, closed, self righteous, disrespectful to opponents, disdainful (most evangelicals)
Gifts - mistaking gifts for fruit, putting emphasis on success of gifts, justification in ministry
Morality - legalism, etc. For justification, self righteousness.
C -
Reason - goal and source of all success and progress of science to fix all,
Traditional - Family everything for family and honor
Individualistic - political correctness, no one is wrong in anything they want to believe,
Destroying idols -
Risk,
Objective -
Idolatry Harbetal and Margolet
Christ
Subjective - keep gospel central, love God more
Full Message
http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/resources/a/The-Grand-Demythologizer-The-Gospel-and-Idolatry
My convoluted notes:
Acts 19:21-41
Paul challenged idols.
Discerning idols -
Agora - marketplace, public forum, center of all.
David Clarkson, 2nd volume - Soul Idolatry.
http://www.gracegems.org/SERMONS/Clarkson_soul_idolatry.htm
Exposing idols -
Threatening idols exposes weakness and creates anger and violence from worshipers
3 kinds of idols -
Personal
Religious
Cultural
P -
pseudo savior to keep control yourself
Money - Artemis, wall street, banks, etc.
Romance - Aphrodite, No boundaries etc.
Children - Stage moms, home schooling moms, etc.
R -
self righteous devotees
Truth - dogmatic, closed, self righteous, disrespectful to opponents, disdainful (most evangelicals)
Gifts - mistaking gifts for fruit, putting emphasis on success of gifts, justification in ministry
Morality - legalism, etc. For justification, self righteousness.
C -
Reason - goal and source of all success and progress of science to fix all,
Traditional - Family everything for family and honor
Individualistic - political correctness, no one is wrong in anything they want to believe,
Destroying idols -
Risk,
Objective -
Idolatry Harbetal and Margolet
Christ
Subjective - keep gospel central, love God more
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